Could some one explain me with there was such a fuss about SugarCrm and Vtiger 9 months ago and now in August 05, all of a sudden the Opensource developpers of Mambo decide to kick out of the community with a new product (a fork) based on a stable version and you don't seem bothered !! . It's not relevant to know why the community of developpers left. The bottom line is that the intellectual property should have remained in Mamboserver's Foundation in Keith Casey point of view... but that's all right since in a "third world language" it means "all together" or "as a whole"